February 21, 2018

Not feeling the Burns.

"Michael Screnock, Rebecca Dallet advance in SCOWIS primary."
Tim Burns, who took the unusual approach of running as a Democrat and taking partisan stands on issues, was eliminated.

41 comments:

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Just one more datum point proving that the left side of Lake Michigan has common sense and the state to the right is studded with fools.

MadisonMan said...

I'm glad he got bounced. I didn't vote for him.

Curious George said...

"roesch/voltaire said...
I think folks in Wisconsin are tiring of the huge amounts of money pouring into Supreme Court races from the Republican Party and right wing organizations and I suspect the Republican boy will not have an easy time as Althouse and Mead wish for."

Looks like the folks in Wisconsin got a second wind.

Wince said...

These firebrand lefties that now look like what were uniformly conservative older people when I was a kid freak me the fuck out.

George Grady said...

From the article:

Gary Geller, an 81-year-old retired salesman from Madison, voted for Dallet because she’s a judge and a woman. Geller said he’s a Democrat but he didn’t consider the candidates’ partisan backgrounds.

“I feel woman judges are more compassionate and have better understanding,” Geller said. “She had the years of experience as a judge and a prosecutor.”


You gotta be kidding me.

I Callahan said...

Mike - Michigan has a Republican controlled USSC.

Bob Boyd said...

This why Democrats lie about what they really want to do and what they really think.

n.n said...

I feel woman judges are more compassionate and have better understanding,” Geller said

She's Pro-Choice. Consider the logic.

Some people have a mother complex, he must have a father complex. It happens.

Big Mike said...

Republicans and non-partisan independents need to rally behind Screnock. If Burns people pull the lever for Dallet, then it's game over.

buwaya said...

I am glad that I was incorrect in my prediction.
Good luck to Judge Screnock.

Joe Biden, America's Putin said...

Good. Burns is Hitler.

Kevin said...

Tim Burns, who took the unusual approach of running as a Democrat and taking partisan stands on issues

It's not unusual.

Cue Tom Jones.

Kevin said...

“I feel woman judges are more compassionate and have better understanding,” Geller said.

What do you want to bet he doesn't consider himself a sexist?

MikeR said...

"Average turnout in spring primaries like this one where the Supreme Court is the only race on the statewide ballot has been 7.3 percent the past two decades, according to the Elections Commission." Representative democracy at its finest

Mike Sylwester said...

Which one is the Person of Color?

Paul Zrimsek said...

Judicial-activism fans aren't ready to do without deniability quite yet.

alan markus said...

In my county, turnout was 22.7% and Screnok at 74.85%.

Rabel said...

Pinhead - 18%
Blockhead - 46%
Redhead - 36%

alan markus said...

"roesch/voltaire said...
I think folks in Wisconsin are tiring of the huge amounts of money pouring into Supreme Court races from the Republican Party and right wing organizations and I suspect the Republican boy will not have an easy time as Althouse and Mead wish for."


Now that there is one "left wing" candidate versus a "right wing" candidate we will see if the "left wing" candidate receives money from the Democratic Party and left wing organizations, and if so, will the folks in Wisconsin be tired of that money too, or only the money that comes pouring in from the Republican Party and right wing organizations.

walter said...

Mike Sylwester said...Which one is the Person of Color?
--
Maybe Dallet is a wise white Latina a la Fauxcahontas.

Ann Althouse said...

"Republicans and non-partisan independents need to rally behind Screnock. If Burns people pull the lever for Dallet, then it's game over."

It was very low turnout, so this set of people doesn't represent the electorate we'll see in the final election. There was a choice to be made between the 2 liberals, and that may have pulled out more liberals. Indeed, some conservatives might have voted for Burns just to give Screnock an easier to defeat opponent. But conservatives do need to pay attention. They might be complacent, especially since the balance on the court will remain conservative even if Dallet wins.

Curious George said...

"Big Mike said...
Republicans and non-partisan independents need to rally behind Screnock. If Burns people pull the lever for Dallet, then it's game over."

This:

Ann Althouse said...
"Republicans and non-partisan independents need to rally behind Screnock. If Burns people pull the lever for Dallet, then it's game over."

It was very low turnout, so this set of people doesn't represent the electorate we'll see in the final election. There was a choice to be made between the 2 liberals, and that may have pulled out more liberals. Indeed, some conservatives might have voted for Burns just to give Screnock an easier to defeat opponent. But conservatives do need to pay attention. They might be complacent, especially since the balance on the court will remain conservative even if Dallet wins."

Unlikely Ann. The GOP machine that came about when Walker won and won and won is still in place and well funded. I have received multiple calls for $$$ and this will change to get out the vote calls now. While Dallet is not the crazy that Burns is, she's a weak candidate. She thinks that the John Doe investigation should not have been ended.

Meade said...

"In my county, turnout was 22.7% and Screnok at 74.85%."

Here in Dane County, turnout was 25.5%. Screnock got 17.3% and Burns got 30.6%.

In Ward 61, where we live and vote (and where Russian trolls hold sway over every neighborhood listserv, sowing discord, confusion, and seeds of non-gmo native wild oats), Dallet received 302 votes, Burns 171, and Screnock 30.

Danno said...

Meade, your neighborhood in Madison sounds like mine in Saint Paul, near Macalester College, maybe even more Tarded.

Big Mike said...

@Althouse, I believe I read that the final election will be in April. Do not look for high turnout there, either. Not like November elections.

roesch/voltaire said...

Don't count your Republican financed candidates before they hatch-- if you combine the votes of Dallet and Burns that equals 262118 votes on the sane side vs 228,831 for the bought candidate Screnock-- we shall see.

Unknown said...

"Just one more datum point proving that the left side of Lake Michigan has common sense and the state to the right is studded with fools."

hey, fuck you, Mike.

-Fool Stud

Drago said...

Per R/V and Lois Lerner, republican donors and dollars are icky and must be stamped out.

Kansas City said...

Looking at the numbers, does it mean democrats got 54% and therefore likely to win?

Bay Area Guy said...

Who did Shirley Abrahamson endorse -- or is that not Kosher?

Surely, she woulda endorsed Burns.

BarrySanders20 said...

Althouse said: "It was very low turnout, so this set of people doesn't represent the electorate we'll see in the final election. There was a choice to be made between the 2 liberals, and that may have pulled out more liberals. Indeed, some conservatives might have voted for Burns just to give Screnock an easier to defeat opponent. But conservatives do need to pay attention. They might be complacent, especially since the balance on the court will remain conservative even if Dallet wins."

The last WISSCT race was similar. Kloppenberg and another liberal together got 55% of the primary vote to Rebecca Bradley's 45%, and that was supposed to be ominous for Bradley in the general when matched up against Kloppenberg, a sitting court of appeals judge. Yet Bradley won fairly handily in the general.

Screnock will have to run a good campaign of course. Wisconsin voters love to elect women judges. 5-2 now, and will be 6-1 if Dallet wins. She's an attractive candidate and among people who actually know (not talk radio), she has a reputation here in Milwaukee County as tough on crime/criminals. It will be interesting to see how she expands that into a state-wide race where the big money backers might not want to emphasize that.

Matt Sablan said...

What is the spending breakdown if the three candidates? If I'm warned of dark money I expect significant spending differences. Even then. Trump proved a good candidate can defeat higher spending.

gilbar said...

aren't there Three states on the left side of Lake Michigan? And isn't one of them Illinois?

The Vault Dweller said...

That is too bad. If Burns won it would have been easier for Screnock to pull it out in the general.

Ann Althouse said...

“@Althouse, I believe I read that the final election will be in April. Do not look for high turnout there, either. Not like November elections”

I certainly don’t expect high turnout, but I do think it will be more than the very low primary.

Ann Althouse said...

“The last WISSCT race was similar. Kloppenberg and another liberal together got 55% of the primary vote to Rebecca Bradley's 45%, and that was supposed to be ominous for Bradley in the general when matched up against Kloppenberg, a sitting court of appeals judge. Yet Bradley won fairly handily in the general.“

Thanks for the refresher.

richard mcenroe said...

Here in Texas we have active Democrat donors and lobbyists running as Republicans. It's almost like openly standing up for what Democrats stand for (slavery, secession, segregation, surrender, abortion, mandatory wedding cakes, etc.)isn't a selling point...

richard mcenroe said...

BOTS! That was the difference! WISCONSIN CHEESE BOTS!

Rusty said...

excellent

Zach said...

Legal realism is more popular in the academy than in the ballot box. And thank goodness for that.

Zach said...

"We all know it's true, so why don't we just admit it?"

Sounds great in theory. Almost never great in practice.

The reason you don't admit it is because you don't want it to be true.